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OnePlus 9 Slow Motion mode gains 4k 120fps!

OnePlus has finally released its new flagship 2021 phones. And they have built a new 3 year partnership with medium format camera maker Hasselblad to build their phone camera modules.  On this first iteration, we get Ultra Wide 50MP, Wide 48MP or standard and a 3.3x telephoto with 8MP which is the lower quality of the bunch.

OnePlus has respected its own heritage when it comes to frame rates as the new 9 handsets retain the 240fps in Full HD 1080p and 480fps in HD 720p mode for somewhat super slow motion and a new mode of 120fps in full 4k which is exciting. OnePlus had the edge in recording duration in previous phones and this new variant might keep that edge. However, we feel disappointed the resolution did not go up to full HD at 480fps and allow for a 960fps HD mode like many other phones out there. → Continue Reading Full Post ←

Panasonic S1H and OnePlus 7 Quick Take!

Panasonic S1H and OnePlus 7

Panasonic not to be outdone by sales rivals is pre-announcing the S1H camera to appease video-centric mirrorless users who want that extra edge.  It has a 6k mode which will allow for better stabilization and cropping/punching in on 4k timelines while giving the user bragging rights.  It has a 14 stop dynamic range spec which if we look at the sensor it is only on a couple of capture settings the rest is 12 bit.

There is also no mention of higher frame rates besides UHD 4k 60p which we presume will be 180fps 1080p max since this camera shares nearly the same internals as the other Panasonic S1 cameras. We do not expect this camera to have better slow motion video than the regular S1 even with its $4000 price tag.  The camera looks to be aimed at the mid-high end of the video market and allow it to record without limits which on the regular S1 is 29min.

Panasonic S1H key features:

  • Full frame sensor capture of 6K/24p in 3:2
  • Capture 5.9K at 30p in 16:9 aspect ratio
  • Super 35mm 1.5x cropped DCI 4K 60p 10bit
  • Open gate 4:3 anamorphic mode
  • V-LOG and 10bit 4:2:2 codecs included without upgrade key!
  • Red Frontal and top Recording Button
  • Vents and heat sink to help with overheating
  • IBIS not specified
  • GH5 style vari-angle screen
  • $4000 / Fall 2019 release date (Lumix S1 is $2500)

Lumix Live Event Cine Gear Expo S1H Announcement:

It is hard to justify this camera for the market in our opinion. The S1 is almost as capable costing $1500 less. You are getting the extended recording time, a better codec and a flippy screen. you seem to lose IBIS which is a must for run and gun shooters and all of us who like using our cameras without sticks. No mention of slow motion which is why we think it will be unchanged from the S1 180fps spec.

We estimate the camera is using the Sony IMX410CQK Sensor which you can find the specs in this PDF Flyer here!

The sensor is capable of windowed frame rates of up to 1628fps at 2020*96px which is hardly usable for serious imaging and includes a more usable 2020*1342 at 150fps.  The 180fps 1080p spec is further windowed down and as we have seen with the regular S1 we have no 1:1 pixel read out in these modes as aliasing and moire are apparent. There is some resolution loss to cope for the sensor readout constraints.

LUMIX S1H Sample Video by Alicia Robbins – Cine Gear Expo 2019 by LUMIX Cameras:

The camera is capable of recording very good quality images as evidenced from the pre-production video above. However, do not expect any huge leaps compared to an S1 to justify the price. If you were put in a position to buy one of these cameras for production, in very few cases will the S1H make more sense than an expendable S1 with 95% as good quality but with a 30min recording limitation.

Sure the 14-bit color and 10 bit 4k DCI continuous recording will be enough for most serious filmmakers to justify but we are guessing Sony will have a big say with their rumored Alpha a7s III which is so long into the cycle that rumors are getting cobwebs. Sony has the technology to really create something special with that camera and maybe get us some very high frame rates to boot.  We would advise everyone to wait it out and see what Sony has in store before plunking any cash for a Panasonic Full Frame system, especially since they are still stubborn enough to keel DfD Autofocus instead of the highly superior Dual Pixel Phase which is standard on Sony and Canon Cameras to name a few. The S1H should include Phase detection but won’t of course.  More info as it becomes available.

OnePlus 7 Specs Released!

While the phone is not out yet but will soon, it is essentially the same exact form factor and screen as last year’s 6T but with the internals of the OnePlus 7 Pro which makes it a better phone in terms of speed and memory characteristics. The camera module is not all there but close with the main 48Megapixel Sony IMX586 sensor that is capable of 480fps at 720p resolution.

OnePlus 7 Pro vs OnePlus 7 vs OnePlus 6T: which one to buy? by Mr. Phone: → Continue Reading Full Post ←

OnePlus 7 Pro Slow Motion Maintains 480fps 720p Spec!

OnePlus 7 Pro Slow Motion

Today the OnePlus 7 Pro was announced after a plethora of leaks over the previous weeks. However, the Slow Motion capabilities were not disclosed in the leaks so we had no rumor to report on that front. Today with the full spec list released we can see that the OnePlus 7 Pro camera has the new Sony IMX 586 mobile sensor which is the same as many other phones recently released included as their main shooter. The 48MP sensor is used to supersample data and allow for better optical crop zoom and noise reduction by averaging neighboring pixels as some of its capabilities.

The problem is that the 48MP sensor is terrible in the rolling shutter department the larger the sensor area is used. We saw that in the Nubia Red Magic 3 and it’s 8k 30p video mode which was unusable at the first sign of movement. That means that 1080 and 720p video modes will have a very severe crop on the sensor and probably much worse low light performance than that found on Last Year’s OnePlus 6 and 6T which allowed for also 720p 480fps for up to 3.75 seconds of recording.

OnePlus 7 Pro Rear cameras – Main Specs:

Sensor: Sony IMX586
Megapixels: 48
Pixel Size: 0.8 µm/48M; 1.6 µm (4 in 1)/12M
Lens Quantity: 7P
OIS: Yes
EIS: Yes
Aperture: f/1.6

Telephoto Lens

Megapixels: 8
Pixel Size: 1.0µm
OIS: Yes
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OnePlus 5 Slow Motion Video Samples!

OnePlus 5 Slow Motion Video Samples

Now that the OnePlus 5 Phone has been shipping to customers for a few weeks it is time to re-visit the phone and the slow motion footage it can record. We were disappointed by the 120fps 720p limitation on the phone since most new flagship handsets aim at the 120fps 1080p and 240fps 720p spec as a competitive plateau.  Still, the OnePlus phones are very popular worldwide with the mix of great optics, lack of software bloatware and true performance unencumbered by ROMs that slow the phone down.

It is true that the phone slow motion will not win any prizes due to slight compression artifacts and aliasing that shows the sensor is skipping lines and applying a lower bitrate at the end.  Slow motion seems to be an afterthought in the OnePlus 5 while stills and 4k recording are solid. We are sharing new examples for you to judge.

OnePlus 5 Slow Motion Video Samples:

OnePlus 5 Slow Motion Video Sample of River + Flowers + BluePoppy by Sandeep Godiyal:

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One Plus 5 Debuts With Only 720p 120fps!

One Plus 5

There were a lot of expectations for the phone that would replace the One Plus 3T which was a mighty seller for the performance hungry crowd without the high price tag that typically goes along with the best phones.  The new One Plus 5 is a good upgrade from the One Plus 3 and 3T in that the performance goes neck and neck with the best of the best out there and tied with the Samsung Galaxy S8 in benchmarks.

The tale, however, is not completely rosy as the camera module taking a page from the iPhone 7 Plus includes two camera sensor modules, one for wide-angle at 16MP and the other for telephoto with 20MP resolution.   We say it falls short because the slow motion frame rates are pegged to a 720p resolution and only at 120fps. This is not flagship performance for video even when it ticks off all the other boxes like 4k 30p and 1080 60p.

The Apple iPhone, Galaxy S7, S8 leave it behind at 240fps 720p while the Sony Xperia XZs and Premium absolutely destroy it at 960fps 720p due to the new stacked sensor contained in those phones. Sony it seems are keeping their best cards close to their sleeves as to not loose the performance edge.

It is clear slow motion video, while touted in the specs, was never a  big design choice for the One Plus 5. The 120fps 720p spec is so 2014 and on a phone that has so much power inside it simply seems out of place.  It may be the choice of sensor in the Sony IMX 371 which may not be able to capture faster speeds.

OnePlus 5 slow motion video by Antonio Monaco:

In the video above by Antonio Monaco, you can see the 720p 120fps video from the One Plus 5 is adequate with good levels of detail and few resolution artifacts.

OnePlus 5 Slow Motion video 1 by Nagaraj:

Good color, good detail and lack of noise are all good attributes of the One Plus 5 slow motion image. However, we see a tendency to defocus and focus continuously. Probably can be avoided by using focus lock on the camera interface.

One Plus 5 Main Specs:

  • Dimensions 154.2 x 74.1 x 7.25 mm
  • Weight 153g
  • Material Anodized Aluminum
  • Color : Midnight Black / Slate Gray
  • Operating System : OxygenOS based on Android Nougat
  • CPU: Qualcomm® Snapdragon 835 (Octa-core, 10nm, up to 2.45GHz)
  • GPU: Adreno 540
Display:
  • Parameters
  • Size: 5.5 inches
  • Resolution: 1080P Full HD (1920 x 1080 pixels) 401ppi
  • Aspect Ratio: 16:9
  • Type: Optic AMOLED
  • Support sRGB, DCI-P3
  • Cover Glass:2.5D Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5
Rear Camera Wide-angle:
  • Sensor: Sony IMX 398 (Same as 3T)
  • Megapixels: 16
  • Pixel Size: 1.12 µm
  • EIS: Yes
  • Autofocus: DCAF
  • Aperture: f/1.7
Rear Camera Telephoto:
  • Sensor: Sony IMX 350
  • Megapixels: 20
  • Pixel Size: 1.0 µm
  • Autofocus: PDAF
  • Aperture: f/2.6

Video Specs Main Camera:

  • 4K resolution video at 30fps
  • 1080P resolution video at 60fps
  • 1080P resolution video at 30fps
  • 720P resolution video at 30fps
  • Slow Motion: 720p videos at 120fps*
  • Time-Lapse
Front Selfie Camera:
  • Sensor: Sony IMX 371
  • Megapixels: 16
  • Pixel Size: 1.0 µm
  • EIS: Yes
  • Autofocus: Fixed Focus
  • Aperture: f/2.0
  • Front Video
  • 1080P resolution video at 30fps
  • 720P resolution video at 30fps
  • Time-Lapse

OnePlus 5 – Dual Camera. Clearer Photos by OnePlus:

Pricing depends on hardware storage/memory version:

The Phone will come in two variants that will share most components including screen but will differ in memory and storage.

One Plus 5 Option #1:

  • 6GB LPDDR4X – RAM
  • 64GB UFS 2.1 2-LANE  Storage
  • Slate Gray Color
  • Price: $479 / €499

One Plus 5 Option #2:

  • 8GB LPDDR4X  – RAM
  • 128GB UFS 2.1 2-LANE  Storage
  • Midnight Black Color
  • Price: $539 / €559

When you compare the phone to other options like the iPhone 7 and Galaxy S8 which are above $700 USD it is clear the One Plus 5 offers a lot of value for a Snapdragon 835 phone which goes head to head in performance figures. It will find a home in a lot of pockets when it comes to 99% of users. The phone is a performance monster but not a video shooters dream when it comes to high frame rates. Which may or may not impact you much. The camera application, however, is good and has great features, for 4k shooters it should be more than adequate.

For us, however, it is just one more missed opportunity for slow motion prowess to be delivered in mobile form.  We will not be covering the One Plus 5 going forward as it barely includes the minimum slow motion spec we cover. -HSC

More information about the One Plus 5 here: https://oneplus.net

More Informational Videos from the One Plus 5 Below:

OnePlus 5 Review! by Marques Brownlee:

OnePlus 5 Camera Hands-on Review by Kai W:

OnePlus 5 review by The Verge:

OnePlus 5 Review by MrMobile [Michael Fisher]:

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